Can I say, Speaker ... [Interjections.] ... it is not correct ... [Interjections.]
No, hon Groenewald ... [Interjections.] ... you asked your question ...
Okay. So, you did not win the war, you surrender. I understand. [Interjections.]
Hon Carter?
Thank you, Speaker. President, recently Minister Gordhan said that former Eskom engineers who are now working abroad should be recalled to South Africa to help solve the crisis. In the same week a report quoted Eskom's own affirmative action plan which outlined that by March 2020 there should be 1 308 fewer qualified employees in its service of which 336 are engineers. On Sunday 24 February, a report quoted the Director-General of Labour as stating that the employment equity plan at