Construction Industry Development Board and Council for the Built Environment Annual Reports 2005/2006
Public Works and Infrastructure
24 October 2006
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PUBLIC WORKS PORTFOLIO COMMITTEE
24 October 2006
CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY DEVELOPMENT BOARD AND COUNCIL FOR THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT
ANNUAL REPORTS 2005/2006
Chairperson: Mr F Bhengu (ANC)
Documents handed out:
Council for Built
Environment Annual Report Presentation
Council for Built Environment (CBE) Annual Report 2005/06 [available later at www.cbe.org.za]
Construction
Industry Development Board (CIDB) Annual Report 2005/2006
Construction Industry Development Board Annual Report 2005/06 Presentation
[available at www.cidb.org.za]
SUMMARY
The Council for Built Environment briefed the Committee on its Annual
Report for 2005/6. The CBE had established infrastructure, complied with the
PFMA. Other achievements included the registration of the Council to be a
Schedule 3(a) company. Systems were in place to facilitate the alignment of all
professional councils. Challenges included the unavailability of a database of
all professionals due to the fact that registration was voluntary. Some
professionals were lost to the system because they became managers; others
disappeared after they from graduated from the education institutions. Members
concerns included the overlapping roles of the CBE and the CIDB, the numbers of
professionals and the fact that these could not readily be ascertained, the remuneration and
composition of the Board, the relationships with Umalusi,
and the staffing strategy. Members were impressed by what had been achieved in
a short time.
The Construction Industry Development Board briefed the Committee,
acknowledging the support of the Department of Public Works. The Board aimed to
improve of industry standards of performance in quality, employment skills,
health and safety. It focused on the empowerment of the historically
disadvantaged sector of the population. Challenges included the number of
applications, client procurement and delivery capacity and skills. It had
difficulty in retaining staff. Successes included the infrastructure delivery
improvement programme, training of clients to use the iTender
Register of Projects, establishment of the National Register of Contractors,
and outreach centres in three provinces. The National Skills study was nearing
finalisation. CIDB would host the 2007 World building Congress and client
satisfaction was steadily improving. The financial statements showed a surplus
of R2 million and the income from contractor registration was steadily
climbing. The audit report was unqualified. There were strong internal
controls. The race and gender profile was improving. Questions from members
included concentration of the industry in urban areas, structures to develop
emerging or lapsed contractors, how HIV/Aids was dealt with, the envisaged
shortage of cement, and how workshops were conducted. Further questions were
asked on the racial profile, the upgrading of contractors, identification and
control of fronting, and skills for water purification projects.
MINUTES
Briefing by Council for Built Environment
The Chairperson stated that when the Council for the Built Environment
(CBE) was established, it had experienced some teething problems and inadequate
support from the Department. The role of the Committee was to help the CBE in
its efforts to transform the industry so that it would benefit the whole
economy, and to train on scarce skills.
Mr Sipho Madonsela,
Chairperson CBE, stated that he mandate of the CBE was stated in fairly simple
terms. Although the environment had changed, its mandate was still relevant,
and it fulfilled both long and short tem goals of the organisation. The CBE had
an established infrastructure, and complied with the PFMA. It had registered to
become a Schedule 3(a) company. Two of CBE’s most important areas of focus were
training and protecting the needs of the public in the built environment.
The achievements of CBE included the uniform application of norms and standards
on fees professionals. The CBE had the authority over six professional
councils. There were overlaps between the roles of the Construction Industry
Development Board (CIDB) and CBE. The CBE had developed systems to facilitate
the alignment of all professional councils. A study was undertaken on the
constraints to transformation within the built environment. A further study had
taken place on international best practice standards, to assist the CBE in
benchmarking national standards, and to look at compulsory registration of
professionals.
CBE stated that there was a need for proper utilisation of skilled people. Many
of the skills had been lost to the profession; some had left the profession,
some had moved up the corporate ladder into management. There was a disturbing
trend that some built environment graduates “disappeared” after graduating from
the education institutions so the CBE did not have an accurate data of skilled
professionals, as registration was voluntary. Other challenges included the
need to create adequate human and institutional capacity to enable it to
achieve its mandate and the legislative review of the Act governing the CBE.
The CBU would have to respond to issues that had been raised by the Attorney
General.
Mr B Zulu, CFO, CBE, mentioned that there had been fruitless expenditure in
current assets, and the expenditure in office infrastructure led to an increase
in non current assets. On income and expenditure he mentioned the increase in
personnel costs and administrative costs due to audit fees and travel. The
ratio of operating costs versus administrative and personnel had changed, from 2:1 in
2005, to 1:1 in 2006. There had been a
deficit.
Mr Madonsela explained that the deficit arose because
there was a general increase in total expenses, higher than the general income.
He reasoned that since CBE was a new organisation with no precedents; it was
impossible to fix an exact budget.
Discussion
Mr S Huang (ANC) asked how Board Members of the council were chosen. He asked
for clarity on the ratio between personnel/administrative costs to operational
costs.
Mr Madonsela replied that the Board was comprised of
officials that were put forward by the government. Some came from the ranks of
the profession and members of the public nominated others. Administrative costs
were not supposed to be more than operational costs, and he noted that for the
2006 period the costs had levelled.
Mr S Opperman (DA) asked whether the number of people
joining the Built Environment professions was growing.
Ms C Ramutsamai (ANC) asked whether the council knew
how many people were currently in the profession. She warned that if the
country did not know the exact numbers then South Africa would be forced to
import skills to the detriment of the citizens. She said that if the
registration was voluntary, then it would be impossible for the country to know
which skills were needed.
Mr Madonsela replied that the previous regime had
left the built environment to play by its own rules. Therefore it was
impossible to know the number of professionals. For instance, some professions,
such as architects, saw registration as just a matter of prestige. He said that
he also advocated the compulsory registration of all professionals in the built
environment. The CBE would look at means of registration from university level.
Ms Ramutsamai asked the reason for the overlap in
roles of the CBE and CIDB. She could not understand why Town Planners were not
included in the Council, because they played a crucial part in the built
environment fraternity. She also enquired about the relationship between
education institutions and the CBE, and commented that the built environment
was overwhelmingly male
Mr Madonsela replied that town planners were varied
because some of them reported to the Department of Transport and Land Affairs.
In regard to the overlap of functions, he explained that the relationship
started when the CBE shared premises with the CIDB, and some professionals, by
the nature of their work, straddled both organisations. The South African
Qualifications Authority (SAQA) and the Council for Higher Education were
working with the CBE
The Chairperson said that he would inform the Minister about the necessity of
compulsory registration for training purposes; as he was concerned that some
professionals were leaving the country in droves. If South Africa did not know
how many professionals it had, it would be impossible to plan properly.
Ms Ramutsamai cited, by way of example, a
conversation with her daughter, in which her daughter had refused to consider
engineering as a career because engineering graduates she knew were unemployed.
Mr H Cupido (ACDP) said that CBE was faced with
challenges; but was sure that CBE would rise to them. He asked about the remuneration
of the Board members.
Mr Madonsela replied that the Board Members who were
not remunerated were the ones that had been put forward by Government.
Mr Maduma asked about the type of relationship that
CBE had with Umalusi.
Mr Madonsela stated that there was currently little
relationship.
Mr Maduma also asked for clarity around the code of
conduct and asked what had been done to replace the resigned project manager.
Mr B Zulu replied that staffing strategy was determined by the objectives of
the organisation, so CBE had been looking at a retention strategy. The CBE
would intervene at different levels, starting from schools, universities up to
professional level. He added that the SETA had been helpful with regards to
training.
Ms Ngcengwane (ANC) asked the reason why fewer people
had registered recently.
Mr Madonsela replied that registration was voluntary,
and it impacted on subscription fees
The Chairperson said that the CBE Act empowered the CBE to approach the
Minister for amendments to the Act
Members noted the need for more interaction and thanked the CBE for what it had
achieved during the short time it had existed.
Briefing by Construction Industry Development Board
Mr Spencer Hodgson, CEO, Construction Industry Development Board, (CIDB),
acknowledged the co-operation from the Department of Public Works. The aims of
the CIDB included the improvement of industry standards of performance in
quality, employment skills, health and safety. The CIDB had focused on the
empowerment of the historically disadvantaged sector of the population. The
CIDB would focus on delivery performance empowerment. He highlighted snapshot
results for 2005/06. Challenges included the service challenges, such as dealing
with 500 applications per week. Others arose on client procurement and delivery
capacity and skills. The CIDB had to deal with unintended consequences and
perception challenges. Corporate challenges arose as it was proving problematic
to retain staff
Mr R Khoza, Procurement and Delivery, CIDB, said that
over 90% of the posts had been filled now. CIDB had procured 40% services from
Black Owned Enterprises. On the question of procurement and delivery he said
that there had been a massive capacity building programme. The infrastructure
delivery improvement programme (IDIP) focused on provincial planning and
implementation. The CIDB had trained clients to use the iTender
Register of Projects. The CIDB, as mandated by the CIDB Act 38 of 2000, had
established a National Register of Contractors. The register was meant to
categorise contractors in accordance with their capability. The register was
also used for contractor development, so that they could move to higher grades,
which were more lucrative; and increase their capacity Outreach centres were
established in three provinces, and the programme would be rolled out to other
provinces by mid-2007.
Commenting on industry performance, Mr Khoza said
that there were monitoring and evaluation mechanisms in place; and that a
construction industry knowledge centre and research agenda had been developed.
The National Skills study informing the Joint
Initiative For Priority Skills Acquisition (JIPSA) was
nearing finalisation. The CIDB had a newsletter reaching all registered
contractors to inform them of new developments. The 2007 World Building
Congress would be co-hosted by the CIDB. Client satisfaction was steadily
improving.
Ms Marina Aucamp, Corporate Services, CIDB, turned to
the financial statements and reported that there had been a surplus of R2
million, and the income from contractor registration was steadily climbing. The
CIDB had an unqualified report from the Auditor General; who had certified that
the organisation had strong internal control systems. The staff profile was
comprised of 71% black employees, while 58% of the staff component was
comprised of women.
Discussion
Mr Blanche commented that refrigeration was not mentioned, although the
building of new structures would put a demand for more refrigeration. He was
concerned that development of the building industry was concentrated in urban
areas.
Mr Hodgson replied that outreach centres would be opened in all provinces.
These would be equipped with webcams to provide
direct communication with the national office.
Mr Maduma (ANC) asked whether there were incubation structures to develop emerging contractors,
and asked how the grading system worked. He also asked whether anything had
been done to rehabilitate lapsed contractors.
Mr Hodgson replied that lapsed contractors were concentrated in the former
homelands, due to the fact that development was mostly in urban areas. A
helpdesk had been opened in Mpumulanga to deal with
such issues. A contractor development programme was meant to help lapsed
contractors. Up to 80% of general building contractors were black owned, and
60% were in engineering, but the focus was on women contractors. On the
question of incubation he said that Grade 5 contractors could tender for Grade
6 services. That would be possible only if the contractor had been provided with
proper support, prompt payment, and project management support to ensure that
they would not fail.
Mr Opperman (DA) enquired about the means used to
deal with HIV/Aids in the construction industry.
Mr Hodgson agreed that the construction industry was a vulnerable group because
they were highly mobile. There were many service organisations that were
dealing with the sector, running prevention workshops. Bigger contractors had
enough resources to deal with HIV/Aids but smaller contractors did not have the
capacity to deal with the pandemic.
Mr Opperman enquired how the industry could cope with
the envisaged shortage of cement.
Mr Hodgson replied that it could be possible that the industry could experience
cement and refrigerator shortages. South Africa could always import supplies
that were not available locally.
Mr Opperman was disturbed by the absence of coloured
employees in the staff composition.
Mr Hodgson stated that CIDB was addressing the issue.
Mr Huang asked how the CIDB could cope with running workshops every third day.
Mr Hodgson replied that outreach team members ran the workshops.
On a point of clarity, Mr Hodgson also stated that an unqualified report meant
that the financial systems of the CIDB were in order.
Mr D Nxumalo (ANC) enquired about the long process
which contractors must undergo in order to register. He wanted to know whether
it was possible to upgrade a contractor from Grade 1 to Grade 9.
Mr Hodgson replied that there was a need to grow contractors to
a higher grades. The Expanded Public Works Programme was instrumental in
upgrading contractors to higher grades. It would be impossible to develop
contractors from Grade 1 to 9. Grade 9 contractors were international companies
that were listed. There were only six Grade 9 contractors in South Africa. He
added that the Grade 9 Contractors were rapidly transforming, and most of them
now had 25% empowerment ownership with a large component of black managers.
Mr Hodgson clarified that it took 21 days to register contactors. Some
companies tendered for business and registered later with the CIDB because the
tendering process demanded registration. Those were the contractors who often
complained of the long process.
Mr L Maduma (ANC) asked about the kind of steps taken
to combat fronting.
Mr Hodgson replied that it was not easy to identify fronting, but there was an
existing verification process. There were no fronting cases identified yet. He
stated that most emerging companies were women owned
Mr Blanche asked what had been done to address the shortage of skills that
would be needed to build massive water purification projects.
Mr Hodgson replied that there was enough capacity to build water purification
projects.
The Chairperson stated that the members would look at all the issues that had
been raised.
The meeting was adjourned.
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