Oversight Report; Committee Report on Private Security Industry Regulation Authority Annual Report; Committee Legacy Report

Meeting report

Opening Remarks
The Chairperson noted that she had sent a letter to Western Cape Provincial Commissioner, Mr Arno Lamoer, about the police attack on a man in Cape Town on Thursday 6 March 2014. The report on this highly unacceptable incident would be distributed to Members. She had also referred the issue to the Independent Police Investigative Directorate (IPID) who had informed her that one of the policemen was arrested on Friday. There was a gap in this investigation with the involvement of the city improvement district officials in the incident. They could be seen assisting the police in the footage. They needed to find out whether this should be reported to the Private Security Industry Regulation Authority (PSIRA), as it was a semi-private security company or with IPID. This would be followed up and the event would be looked at in its totality. She thanked the public for taking the video and making it public. It was a pity this had to be done but if it meant SAPS learnt that this was unacceptable then so be it.

Adoption of Committee Minutes

Committee Minutes dated 18 June 2013
The Chairperson went through the minutes by page.

Ms M Molebatsi (ANC) noted Ms P Mocumi (ANC) was listed both in attendance and under apologies.

The Chairperson asked that this be checked.

The minutes were adopted with amendments by Mr D Stubbe (DA) and seconded by Ms D Sibiya.  (ANC).

Committee Minutes dated 19 June 2013
The Committee went through the document page by page.

The minutes were adopted without amendments by Mr V Ndlovu (IFP) and seconded by Ms D Kohler-Barnard (DA).

Committee Minutes dated 23 July 2013
The Committee went through the document page by page.

The minutes were adopted without amendments by Ms Molebatsi and seconded Ms Kohler-Barnard.

Ms Kohler-Barnard thought there should be consistency with how the names were written in the body of the minutes and apologies.

Committee Minutes dated 24 July 2013
The morning session of the meeting was adopted without amendments by Ms Molebatsi and seconded by Ms Sibiya.

The afternoon session of the meeting was adopted without amendments by Ms Sibiya and seconded by Mr Ndlovu.

Committee Minutes dated 30 July 2013
The Committee went through the document page by page.

Ms Mocumi noted a spelling error of a Member’s name in the attendance.

The minutes were adopted with amendments by Mr Stubbe and seconded by Ms Molebatsi.

Committee Minutes dated 1 August 2013
The Committee went through the document page by page.

The Chairperson noticed some errors of alignment in the text of the minutes.

The minutes were adopted with amendments by Ms Kohler-Barnard and seconded by Ms Sibiya.

Committee Minutes dated 6 August 2013
The Committee went through the document page by page.

The minutes were adopted without amendments by Ms Kohler-Barnard and seconded by Mr Stubbe.

Committee Minutes dated 14 August 2013
The Chairperson hoped that in the next Parliament, the Committee Section adhered to the fact that minutes were supposed to be made available within the same week.

Ms Kohler-Barnard noted inconsistencies with the hyphen in her name and with full stops after the shorting of titles. There was also misalignment of text.

The minutes were adopted with amendments by Mr Stubbe and seconded by Ms Mocumi.

Committee Minutes dated 10 September 2013

The Committee went through the document page by page.

Ms Kohler-Barnard again highlighted problems of misalignment of text.

The minutes were adopted with amendments by Mr Ndlovu and seconded by Ms Sibiya.

Committee Minutes dated 17 September 2013

The Committee went through the document page by page.

The minutes were adopted without amendments by Ms Kohler-Barnard and seconded by Ms Sibiya.

Committee Minutes dated 8 October 2013
Ms Kohler-Barnard noticed misalignment of text.

The minutes were adopted with amendments by Mr Stubbe and seconded by Ms Molebatsi.

Committee Minutes dated 9 October 2013

The Committee went through the document page by page.

The Chairperson highlighted problems with the alignment of the text.

The minutes were adopted with amendments by Mr Stubbe and seconded by Ms Sibiya.

Committee Minutes dated 10 October 2013

The Committee went through the document page by page.

Ms Kohler-Barnard noted that the word “stock theft” did not have a hyphen.

The minutes were adopted with amendments by Mr Ndlovu and seconded by Mr Stubbe.

Committee Minutes dated 15 October 2013

The Committee went through the document page by page.

The Chairperson again noticed misalignment of text.

The minutes were adopted with amendments by Ms Molebatsi and seconded by Mr Stubbe.

Committee Minutes dated 16 October 2013

The Committee went through the document page by page.

The minutes were adopted by Mr Ndlovu and seconded by Ms Sibiya.

Committee Minutes dated 17 October 2013

The Committee went through the document page by page.

The Chairperson again noticed misalignment of the text.

The minutes were adopted with amendments by Mr Stubbe and seconded by Ms Kohler-Barnard.

Committee Minutes dated 22 October 2013

The Committee went through the document page by page.

The minutes were adopted without amendments by Mr Ndlovu and seconded by Ms Sibiya.

Committee Minutes dated 23 October 2013

The Committee went through the document page by page.

The minutes were adopted without amendments by Ms Molebatsi and seconded by Ms Mocumi.

Committee Minutes dated 6 November 2013

The Committee went through the document page by page.

Mr S Thobejane (ANC) thought the venue should come before the agenda for the meeting.

The Chairperson said this was correct.

The minutes were adopted with amendments by Mr Thobejane and seconded by Ms Molebatsi.

Committee Minutes dated 28 January 2014
The Committee went through the document page by page.

The Chairperson noted venue should come before the agenda of the meeting. She wanted the Committee researcher to redo these minutes because it could not be adopted as it was.

Committee Minutes dated 29 January 2014
The Committee went through the document page by page.

The Chairperson again noticed misalignment with the text. She also said the “National Assembly” could not be in attendance – this had to be corrected. Furthermore, FF+ was indicated with the plus sign and not the letter “P”.

The minutes were adopted with amendments by Ms Sibiya and seconded by Ms Molebatsi.

The Chairperson noted the minutes for today would need to be adopted as well at some stage.

Draft PSIRA Annual Report
The Chairperson noted that by law this Report did not have to be adopted but the Committee would be doing so anyway for the sake of continuity. She proceeded to go through the Report page by page.

A few grammatical amendments were noted.

The Report with amendments was adopted by Ms Molebatsi and seconded by Mr Stubbe.

Report of Committee’s Oversight Visit to Eastern Cape
The Chairperson wanted consistency between the inclusion of the first names of Members. She also thought that Members should be addressed as Honourable.

She had a problem with the findings of SAPS 13 Stores and the fact that the 5 kg of dagga and hard drugs found on this oversight visit was not listed under the findings. She asked why this crucial finding was not included.

Mr Irvin Kinnes, Committee Content Advisor, said that those findings were included in the recommendations.

The Chairperson said this was a station by station Report so the finding must be included under the section dealing with SAPS 13 Stores.

Mr Thobejane noted the numbering was wrong.

Ms Kohler-Barnard saw her name was spelt incorrectly.  

The Chairperson found that there were lots of other amendments to be made. She would not adopt the Report as it was. She wanted these changes to be made during the tea break.

Committee Legacy Report
The Committee went through this Report page by page noting a number of amendments which needed to be made.

The Chairperson noted a number of substantial amendments needed to be made to this Report. She suggested an extended tea break be taken so that the document could be reworked.

After the tea the Chairperson noted confirmation was received that the Committee could meet the next day. She suggested Members meet at 09h30 to go through a completed reworked Report. She would sit down with management and the Committee Content Advisor to go through what was needed and she asked Members email their remarks as to what changes could be made to Mr Kinnes. This would be more useful than sitting now and going through the Report page by page. The venue for the meeting would be communicated to Members. The Committee could then also adopt an amended Report of the Committee on their Oversight Visit to the Eastern Cape Province. 

The meeting was adjourned.